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    Semi View Venda Homeland leader speaks
    31 ft

    40 ft

    Semi View Vorster speaking to reporter in African and English
    62 ft

    Semi View Vorster with others
    63 ft

    Semi View Mr. Masangani answers
    216 ft

    reporter questions in English and African
    320 ft

    Semi View reporter interviewing worker (silent)
    425 ft

    Speech: "Well we have about 30% who live outside, that is in the farms, also in urban areas and of course some working outside Venda".

    Reporter: "Venda is one of the very small homelands, has the smallest of the country not been an obstacle in asking for independence?

    Homeland leader: "No, that dosn't count but the wish of the people, the number dosn't count much as far as their request for independence concerned, it is the wish of the people. There are quite a number of small African states which are independent although numerically small which are even smaller than Venda, so why not Venda?

    Vorster: "No a final date will only be decided later, all that I can tell you that if has been decided in principle that it will be in the second half of next year".

    Reporter: "Mr. Massangani the Prime Minister says that you've asked for independence not only for your people inside the homeland but also those outside, now how many Venda people live outside the homeland?

    Massangani: "A little number".

    Reporter: "You represent the governing party in your legislative assembly, does the opposition in that council support you in this request for independence?

    Massangani: "That's right, very much so, they do support us their only fear is that it is not too early before we get the whole of Venda consolidated but when we explained to them that it's not an issue which can stop us from becoming independent they understood it because the length of communication has been negotiated before independence and also after independence that can be done".

    Reporter: "You mentioned the borders, are all the borders consolidated and are there land claims outstanding".

    Massangani: "Well there are places where the borders are clear but this will be ironed out and we will get proper borders before independence".

    Reporter: "Mr. Massangani, you are in a very strategic position in your country it borders on Rhodesia and also Mozambique, what's being done to secure these strategic borders?

    Massangani: "Well the R.S.A. army will help us guard the borders and also the Venda National Guard which is being established at present".

    Reporter: "You intend to start your own army?

    Massangani: "That's right, yes that is the initial guard which will b e composed of the army the prison officials the prisons and also the traffic officers, so that will be the initial guard of Venda". (Please note: Interview continues silent)


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