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    Cunningham & Ottino speaking at interview
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    TRANSCRIPT: Question: Mr. Cunningham, why have you left Zambia?

    Cunningham: I've been trained as an English lawyer and I've practised what I consider to be English law in Zambia, the type of practice I consider no longer possible there, and I'm totally unqualified in tribal law

    Q: What are the circumstances surroundings the cause which made you leave Zambia?

    Cunningham: One month ago, Orsino's shop was smashed by thugs - the thugs were not persecuted, but Orsino was bounded - the government must know who gave the order, a deliberate punch to an innocent man who had tried to do a kindness to the white Vice President

    Ottino: describes how his shop was smashed up

    Cunningham: I issued a writ against persons I thought guilty - the Mayor of Lusaka who had tried before to close the shop. I got a High Court Order but the people concerned & members of the government were not going to be gainsaid by a mere High Court. The culminating trial resulted in imprisonment of Mr. Mumba and the Secretary of the Youth Movement. The Mayor of Lusaka had implicated himself, in my view, and certainly there should have been facts laid before the court, but Mumba was released. The High Court was guilty in manner completely outside my experience, and in a manner shocking & unknown to law. It should have been left to the judiciary, but until the reasons are made up public, I can only believe it was not justice but FIX.

    Question: There was a second Lusaka lawyer who was has left Zambia now

    Cunningham: He was prosecuting for the State in another case & felt he had to say something & he simply said that he regretted that a member of the Bar should be leaving for vindicating the life of three...(unintelligible) He uttered what is virtually a sacred principle for lawyers, and for that he was summarily dismissed the same day.......

    Question: A few months ago your house was searched...

    Cunningham: explains the circumstances, then adds that he will have to live in England if he wants to continue to practice law, but he would much rather live in Rhodesia of South Africa, where, in his opinion, law & justice exist to a far greater degree than in any of the other countries he has visited on his extensive travels


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