Former Rhodesian Prime Minister Mr. Garfield Todd, who is on Mr. Joshua Nkomo's team at?
LV EXTERIOR: building
LV INTERIOR: former British Liberal Party leader Mr. Jo Grimmond speaking from platform with former Rhodesian Premier Garfield Todd seated beside him.
SV SOOM IN: audience including the Bishop of Stepney, Huddleston
CU: Garfield Todd interviewed.
GIMMOND:"......Mr. Garfield Todd, which is indeed a very great honour, because I reckon he has done more for the good name of his country in Africa than any other single man."
TODD: "Mr. van der Byl is, as they say, Mr. Smith's gift to the nationalists. Whenever he speaks, he makes things more difficult for Mr. Smith, I would think. It wasn't what I would call negotiating language, and it wasn't true, and....."
REPORTER: How bad is the guerrilla war now? And can the Government live with it?"
TODD: "No, the Government can't live with it. It can't live with it for a number of reasons. One is the situation in Rhodesia at the moment demands that a great number of the white menu from industry and commerce should serve in the army. When the big call-up took place earlier last year, we were told that this would be to clear up the whole guerrilla situation before the rains came in October. The men have not gone back to their work-benches of their farms or their offices."
REPORTER: "What percentage chance would you give for peace in Rhodesia -- in Zimbabwe -- in the foreseeable future?"
TODD: "I have great hopes. Mind you, we depend to a large extent not only on the people within the country who want peace. The whole six million of them, I think, want peace. We depend, to some extent, on the goodwill of the five front-line presidents, and on the goodwill of the western world and the assistance we have been promised. Dr. Kissinger speaks of two thousand million to under-gear the economy, to help us in training, in education. There will be so many positive things to do that if we have any chance at all -- there's great deal depends, I think, on the United Kingdom and its higher participation in this period of transition; that if we can get things right we have the skills, we have the capabilities among the African people; we could made a success of Zimbabwe."
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Background: Former Rhodesian Prime Minister Mr. Garfield Todd, who is on Mr. Joshua Nkomo's team at the Geneva settlement talks, has attacked Rhodesian Foreign Minister, Mr. Pieter van der Byl. The Foreign Minister, he said in London on a brief trip from the Swiss talks, was 'Mr. Smith's greatest gift to the nationalists'. Mr. Van der Byl is representing Mr. Smith in the talks, and his public comments about the nationalists have angered black Rhodesian leaders like Mr. Nkomo.