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    SV BUTROUS GHALI & INTERVIEW - PULL IN TO CU GHALI
    565 ft


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    INTERVIEWER: "DR. BUTROUS GHALI, DO YOU THINK THE RECENT STATEMENTS BY THE MAYORS OF BETHLEHEM AND GAZA ARE A TRUE INDICATION OF A CHANGE IN PALESTINIAN ATTITUDES?"



    GHALI: "I BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE AMONG THE PALESTINIAN, MODERATE PALESTINIAN AND ONE OF THE AIMS OF EGYPTIAN DIPLOMACY IS HOW TO ENCOURAGE PALESTINIAN TO BECOME MODERATES .. THEY MUST BE ENCOURAGED BY TANGIBLE RESULTS IN THE PEACE PROCESS."



    INTERVIEWER: "DO YOU THINK IT IS TIME FOR THE AMERICANS TO CONSIDER SOME KIND OF DIALOGUE WITH, FOR EXAMPLE THE PALESTINE LIBERATION ORGANISATION?"



    GHALI: "THERE I BELIEVE THAT PRESIDENT SADAT WHEN HE WAS ON HIS LAST TRIP TO WASHINGTON AND IN LONDON TOO, SAID THEY MUST HAVE A KIND OF MUTUAL RECOGNITION THE ISRAELIS WOULD RECOGNISE THE ORGANISATION & THE ORGANISATION WOULD RECOGNISE THE STATE OF ISRAEL MEANWHILE, BEFORE WE OBTAIN THIS, WHICH IN A CERTAIN WAY IS THE LAST STEP OF THE PEACE PROCESS, SOMETHING OUGHT TO BE DONE & THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE THE EGYPTIAN/AMERICAN APPROACH TRYING TO FIND A CONDITIONAL SOLUTION UNTIL WE CAN OBTAIN A KIND OF MUTUAL RECOGNITION."



    INTERVIEWER: "BUT IT'S NOT JUST A QUESTION OF ARAB OR PALESTINIAN PARTICIPATION? CAN YOU REALLY HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE AGREEMENT IN THE MIDDLE EAST WITHOUT THE ENDORSEMENT OF BOTH SUPER POWERS? SHOULD ROOM BE MADE FOR THE RUSSIANS BASICALLY?"



    GHALI: "AGAIN IF WE RETURN BACK TO THE BASIC DISPOSITION OF CAMP DAVID WE FIND THAT AT THE CLOSING STAGE WE ARE ASKING THE PARTICIPATION OF THE SOVIET UNION THIS IS A COLD WAR DISPUTE AND THE FINAL SOLUTION WILL NEED THE AGREEMENT OF THE 2 SUPER POWERS. IN ARTICLE 5 ARTICLE 6 OF THE CAMP DAVID AGREEMENT WE SAY THAT WE WILL ASK THE ENDORSEMENT OF THE PERMANCHULT MEMBER OF THE SECURITY COUNCIL. THIS IS AN OPEN INVITATION TO THE SOVIET UNION, THAT THEY ASK THE PERMANENT MEMBER OF THE SECURITY COUNCIL WHO WILL HAVE AUTHORITY IN CONFRONTING WITH THIS AGREEMENT WHICH MAY BE CONCLUDED IN THE FUTURE".



    INTERVIEWER: "BUT HOWEVER MUCH YOUR RELATIONS IMPROVE THERE WILL STILL BE A CONSIDERABLE DIRESUALIBRIUM IN VIEW OF YOUR VERY CLOSE TIES WITH THE UNITED STATES."



    GHALI: "NOW ALIGNMENT DOES NOT MEAN EQUIDISTANT FROM EACH OF THE TWO SUPER POWERS - WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS NOT TO BE ALIGNED WITH ONE OF THE TWO SUPER POWERS. WE HAVE VERY IMPORTANT RELATIONS WITH THE UNITED STATES, WE HAVE LESS IMPORTANT RELATIONS WITH THE SOVIET UNION BUT WE NEVER EXPECT TO BE ALIGNED WITH THE SOVIET UNION NOT WITH THE UNITED STATES ... IN FACT OUR RELATIONS WITH THE DIFFERENT AREA COUNTRIES ARE EXCELLENT ON AN INTERNATIONAL BASIS, THERE ARE MORE THAN 2 MILLION EGYPTIANS WORKING IN THE ARAB WORLD, WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF EGYPTIAN ARABS CHILDREN HERE IN CAIRO ... WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE NORMAL DIPLOMATIC TRADITION AND I BELIEVE THIS WILL HAPPEN SOONER OR LATER."





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    Film ID:
    VLVABLCSFEOLBBUM2TJ3795M3FR2I
    Media URN:
    VLVABLCSFEOLBBUM2TJ3795M3FR2I
    Group:
    Reuters - Source to be Verified
    Archive:
    Reuters
    Issue Date:
    26/01/1982
    Sound:
    Unknown
    HD Format:
    Available on request
    Stock:
    Colour
    Duration:
    00:14:57:00
    Time in/Out:
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    Canister:
    N/A

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