South African Foreign Minister Hilgard Muller said on Monday (22 September) that his discussions with the British Foreign Office cantered on the problems of Rhodesia, Southwest Africa and the issue of South African membership in the United Nations.
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MV zoom into CU Mr.Muller out of Ministry out of Ministry down steps and answers questions from Visnews reporter william Ward.
TRANSCRIPT: REPORTER: Good Afternoon Dr., can you tell us what you and Mr. Ennals talked about this afternoon?
MULLER: Well, you know we saw each other earlier this year when we talked about Rhodesia and other matters. We did that again this afternoon.
REPORTER: Are you seeking British help in your efforts to aid a Rhodesia and other matters. We did that again this afternoon.
MULLER: Well, we have been cooperating with the Presidents... Dr. Kaunda others, and the British have been in the Picture too. As you know, Mr. Ennals visited South Africa. Mr. Callaghan visited South Africa earlier this year when we discussed these matters and we've just continued discussions today.
REPORTER: Did you discuss your continued efforts to remain within the United Nations? Will you be seeking British help?
MULLER: Well, we did discuss our position is with the United Nations?
REPORTER: Could you tell us what your position is with the United Nations?
MULLER: It hasn't been finally decided. It will be done.
REPORTER: Can we expect to see a South African representative at the current session of the United Nations before the final decision?
MULLER: I can't tell you now. That'll have to be decided.
REPORTER: Did you discuss Southwest Africa at all?
MULLER: YES, that was one of the topics which we discussed.
REPORTER: Did you arrive at any conclusions?
MULLER: No, it's not for us to arrive at conclusions. I could inform Mr. Ennals of what has transpired here, what is happening, how we see that the situation. but it's not a question of arriving at conclusions.
REPORTER: What is going to happen is Southwest Africa?
MULLER: Well, a lot is happening there. We've been making history. For the first time ever in the history of that territory, leaders of all the Population groups are in conference. They're consulting how to work out their political future, constitutional future.
REPORTER: Would South Africa be happy to see a black government in Southwest Africa?
MULLER: We would be happy with whatever the people of Southwest Africa decide.
REPORTER: And they will be allowed to decide this for themselves?
MULLER: Oh, well, that is obvious. That has been...we're on record as having said that time and again. It's for the people of Southwest Africa to divide. They're there now and all the options are open.
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Background: South African Foreign Minister Hilgard Muller said on Monday (22 September) that his discussions with the British Foreign Office cantered on the problems of Rhodesia, Southwest Africa and the issue of South African membership in the United Nations.
He made the remarks in an interview with Visnews Africa Editor William Ward after he had met with David Ennals, British Minister of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs.
The one day visit to Britain is part of European tour by Mr. Muller. He came to Britain following a visit to West Germany end planned to leave Tuesday for Italy.
He told visnews that Britain was "in the picture" concerning efforts by South Africa to mediate in the dispute between the white dominated Government of Rhodesia and African nationalists.
On the question of South Africa's position at the United Nations. which barred South Africa from attending last year's General Assembly,Mr. Muller was non-committal, although he admitted discussing it with Mr.Ennals.
South Africa is still officially a member of the U.N., but in light of last year's rejection, has not been attending this year's session. He said a decision on what South Africa would do had not been made yet.
On the question of Southwest Africa, whose continued administration by South Africa led to last year's U.N. action,Mr. Muller said he told Mr. Ennals what was going on there but that non conclusions were reached because there were none to be reached.
He said Southwest Africa was no developing a constitution and that if the peoples of Southwest Africa decided on a black majority government, South Africa would find that acceptable.
He stressed that South Africa was allowing Southwest Africa to make its own choice.
On monday night, in a speech before the British Foreign Affairs Club, Mr. Muller said there were potential situations of instability on the east coast of Africa and that he feared the Communist naval presence in the Indian Ocean could tip the scales in the wrong direction.
But he said the "dangers" could draw "moderate like-minded states closer together."
This film comes serviced with Mr. Muller's interview by reporter William Ward. A transcript follows: