1.
CV CARDINAL CONWAY OUT OF CAR AND INTO HOTEL
0.16

2.
GV EXTERIOR HOTEL
0.18

3.
SV CARDINAL CONWAY RE-APPEARING AT DOORWAY
0.22

4.
SV PRESS MEN
0.24

5.
CU CARDINAL CONWAY SOF BEGINS:
0.51

6.
GV GROUNDS OF HOTEL
0.56

7.
SV CALLAGHAN INTO CAR
0.59

8.
SV POLICEMAN ON WATCH
1.09

9.
SV PAISLEY ARRIVING AND ENTERING (2 SHOTS)
1.20

10.
SV T.V. CAMERA
1.23

11.
SV PAISLEY WITH PRESSMEN IN DOORWAY, THEN PAISLEY THROUGH CROWD SOF BEGINS: ...
1.52


"I'M NOT MAKING ANY STATEMENT ........ SOF ENDS: ... . INTERVIEW HE'S HAD".
1.55

12.
GV & SV CALLAGHAN TALKING TO OTHERS PRIOR TO HELICOPTER TRIP (2 SHOTS)
2.14

13.
GV HELICOPTER AWAY
2.32


TRANSCRIPT (SEQ 5): CARDINAL CONWAY: "I THINK IF THE ... BASICALLY THE IMPORTANCE OF THE MAINTENANCE OF LAW AND ORDER IMPARTIALLY ADMINISTERED AND THE IMPORTANCE OF REAL AND DEEP-SEATED REFORMS IN THE AREAS IN WHICH REFORM IS NECESSARY".



REPORTER: "ANYTHING TO TELL US AT ALL, MR. PAISLEY?"



TRANSCRIPT (SEQ 11): PAISLEY: "NO, I'LL NOT MAKE ANY STATEMENT "TILL HALF PAST TWO (INDISTINCT) PRESS CONFERENCE IN MY OFFICE ...."



REPORTER: "(INDISTINCT) .. ROOM FOR ALL THESE CAMERAS IN YOUR OFFICE.. WON'T YOU SAY ANYTHING TO US NOW?"



PAISLEY: "WELL, WE CAN GO OVER TO RAVEN HILL CHURCH, IF YOU'D RATHER GO THERE. THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM THERE. NO, I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING NOW".



REPORTER: "MR. CALLAGHAN SAID HE HAD CERTAIN THINGS TO SAY TO YOU. DID HE SAY THEM?"



PAISLEY: "HE DID SAY THEM, AND I SAID CERTAIN THINGS TO HIM, TOO. I SUPPOSE IT WAS THE MOST FORTHRIGHT INTERVIEW HE'S HAD".




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Background: BRITISH HOME SECRETARY JAMES CALLAGHAN, ON THE SECOND DAY OF A THREE-DAY FACT-FINDING TOUR OF STRIFE-RIDDEN NORTHERN IRELAND, TODAY (THURSDAY) MET ROMAN CATHOLIC CARDINAL CONWAY AND PROTESTANT LEADER REVEREND IAN PAISLEY AT HIS BELFAST HOTEL.

CARDINAL CONWAY, WHO IS ROMAN CATHOLIC PRIMATE OF ALL IRELAND, WAS ACCOMPANIED ON HIS MORNING VISIT TO THE HOME SECRETARY BY ONE OF HIS BISHOPS, THE MOST REVEREND WILLIAM PHILBIN. THE TWO CHURCHMEN REPORTEDLY URGED MR. CALLAGHAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS A FAST INTRODUCTION OF NEEDED REFORMS IN NORTHERN IRELAND AND STRESSED THE IMPORTANCE OF IMPARTIAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.

CARDINAL CONWAY SPOKE TO JOURNALISTS AT THE HOTEL ENTRANCE FOLLOWING HIS MEETING WITH MR. CALLAGHAN.

THE HOME SECRETARY THEN LEFT THE HOTEL FOR A QUICK VISIT WITH LIEUTENANT-GENERAL FREELAND, COMMANDER OF BRITISH TROOPS IN ULSTER WHO HAS BEEN APPOINTED DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS, NORTHERN IRELAND, TO COVER HIS RESPONSIBILITY FOR CIVIL ORDER.

MR. CALLAGHAN THEN MET MR. PAISLEY. THE HOME SECRETARY REPORTEDLY TOLD HIM THAT HE WAS NOT USING HIS TALENTS TO CREATE CONDITIONS IN WHICH PEOPLE COULD LIVE TOGETHER PEACEABLY. HE URGED MR. PAISLEY TO CHANGE HIS PRESENTATION AND STRESS A LIVE AND LET LIVE ATTITUDE.

ACCORDING TO INFORMED SOURCES, MR. PAISLEY AGREED TO COOPERATE, BUT STRESSED THAT HE WAS A PROTESTANT AND WOULD REMAIN ONE UNTIL THE END - HIS VIEWS COULD NOT BE CHANGED.

MR. PAISLEY LEFT THE HOTEL, REFUSING TO MAKE A STATEMENT. HE SAID ONLY THAT HE SUPPOSED HIS INTERVIEW WAS THE MOST FORTHRIGHT MR. CALLAGHAN HAS HAD. THE HOME SECRETARY THEN FLEW BY HELICOPTER FOR A TOUR OF THE PREDOMINANTLY CATHOLIC BOGSIDE SECTION OF LONDONDERRY.