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NOBLE - U.K. ALTHOUGH BOTH SIDES DECLARE....... TO GIVE UP EVERYTHING.
" " I WANT TO MAKE QUITE CLEAR....... SERIES OF TEST THIS WINTER.
" " I WOULD ONLY POINT OUT....... FIRST STAGE OF DISARMAMENT.
TRANSCRIPT: ALLAN NOBLE: "Although both sides declare that they are aiming at a partial disarmament agreement, there is still a fundamental difference in their general approach. The Western plan is a balanced and realistic proposal for the first step in disarmament. It is balanced as between measures of nuclear disarmament, measures of conventional disarmament and measures of inspection and control. It is realistic in the sense that we do not carry our proposals, whether nuclear or conventional, to lengths that would deprive any state of a reasonable degree of protection and security. Now some states rely principally on nuclear weapons for their defence, others are stronger in conventional armaments and we must preserve the balance between the two types of disarmament. We cannot in the present state of the world, expect countries to abandon those weapons on which they chiefly rely for their defence. Under the Western plan, each state would be asked to give up something but no state is asked to give up everything. I would like to make the position of my government quite clear. Her Majesty's government are prepared to agree to the suspension of tests provided this forms part of a first stage international agreement on disarmament, along the lines of the recent Western proposals. Her Majesty's government would welcome the early conclusion of such an agreement. Pending such an agreement, Her Majesty's government must proclaim their freedom to continue the testing of nuclear weapons. It is in fact planned to have a further series of tests this winter.
I will only point out that there are two measures in the Soviet proposals which do not appear in the "estern plan. These are their proposals for the elimination of foreign bases and for the reduction of foreign forces in Germany and other European Countries. Now here again, Mr. Chairman, the Soviet government are really looking beyond a first stage agreement. Foreign bases and foreign forces in Europe exist because of present tension. Their reduction would only be the result of measures of disarmament and the consequent lessening of tension. If I may say so, by demanding these measures in the first place, the Soviet govt. are really putting the cart before the horse. They are in fact, attacking political conditions even to a first stage of disarmament."
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