INTRODUCTION With the European Human Rights Court planning to open a full-scale public enquiry in April into allegations of the use of torture by British security forces in Northern Ireland, two Ulster Catholics have spoken about their experiences while under interrogation.
SV (MUTE) BBC reporter Keith Kyle facing Ulster Catholic schoolteacher Bernard O'Connor (with glasses)
CU O'Connor speaking
CU Another Catholic, Michael Lavelle, speaking
TRANSCRIPT: (SEQ. 2): O'CONNOR: "One of the interviewers came over to me with a beaker of water -- a white plastic beaker of water and he asked me 'did I want a drink?'. I was really parched and dying of thirst and I said 'yes, I would love a drink' and he handed it to me -- into my right hand -- and with his other hand he knocked the beaker of water from my hand onto the floor. I was roared at and accused of throwing the water over the floor and 'was that what I thought of the drink he was giving me?' -- and finally my legs were kicked from under me and I was made to crawl on my knees on the floor and lick the water -- the beads of water from the floor that landed there. As a matter of fact I could hardly believe, but I was delighted to get the water, even in that form."
(SEQ. 3): LAVELLE: "I was then ordered to run on the spot. And to do press ups and was then told to take off my trousers and run on the spot.
I was then forced to stand in a position --
KYLE: "Can you describe it?"
LAVELLE: "Yes -- legs apart, on your toes,knees bent and arms outstretched. After a period of time in this position your body gets weak and you drop your hands and if I dropped my hands or straightened my knees I was continually slapped on the back of the head."
KYLE: "How long did they keep you in that position?"
LAVELLE: "The first two detectives about 15 to 20 minutes."
REPORTER: KEITH KYLE
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Background: INTRODUCTION With the European Human Rights Court planning to open a full-scale public enquiry in April into allegations of the use of torture by British security forces in Northern Ireland, two Ulster Catholics have spoken about their experiences while under interrogation.
SYNOPSIS: Bernard O'Connor and Michael Lavelle talked to BBC reporter Keith Kyle.