The President of the High Executive Council of Southern Sudan, General Joseph Lagu, has accused Tanzanian troops of worse atrocities in Northern Uganda than those committed by Idi Amin's soldiers.
GV & SV Government offices of the High Executive Council of Southern Sudan
SV General Joseph Lagu, President of the High Executive Council interviewed
OSMAN: "In what way are they being inhuman or irresponsible?"
LAGU: "The advancing army are already committing atrocities not less than what Amin's army did."
OSMAN: "Is this tribal killing of religious killing, or what?"
LAGU: "Tribal and religious."
OSMAN: "And you're convinced of this, are you?"
LAGU: "Absolutely convinced of this in that the tribes that suffered under Amin -- Atolhi, the Langhi and the Lugbara, I mean I'm sorry the Buganda are now revenging the tribes that have been with Amin. These tribes, as far as we know, are the Lugbara, the Kakwa, the Mardi, and they are revengeful and these events they doesn't help anything, I have seen and told that they are arriving to Juba here that the whole of tribe are moving into the Sudan, so are the Kawka, so are the Lugbara, fear of the lives and that the advancing Tanzanian forces are being followed by Atholi tribesmen killing anybody, any Lugbara and Kakwa they can find. This is inhuman. they cannot claim to be better than Amin's people."
OSMAN: "You have been somewhat critical of the Tanzanian presence. Do you still feel that way?"
LAGU: "Very, very critical, I see no reason that the Tanzanian forces should have entered Uganda, or now, even after the victory over Amin, still to stay there because they have set up a precedent that has never been there before. And what justification has Tanzania to invade Uganda and set up the government of her choice? Justification that we in the Sudan could not have. We have long and border with Uganda. We have more tribes with Uganda, we have more affinity, closer affinity with Uganda, and would could feel more concern. Why should we stand idle? We allowed Tanzania to march on over her border and set up a government of her choice. Why should we not do the same?"
OSMAN: "But you welcome the over-throw of Idi Amin, do you?"
LAGU: "Nobody wanted Idi Amin -- if his soldiers even wanted him they would have fought. And I'm telling you here, and I'm warning Tanzania that his own soldiers, these same men of Idi Amin who didn't want to fight under Idi Amin, because they approved of his acts; if they are re-grouped they will fight."
OSMAN: "Your advice to the Tanzanians is to get out as quickly as possible. Is the right?"
LAGU: "To get out as quickly as possible so that their pull-out is honourable."
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Background: The President of the High Executive Council of Southern Sudan, General Joseph Lagu, has accused Tanzanian troops of worse atrocities in Northern Uganda than those committed by Idi Amin's soldiers. Ugandan refugees pouring into southern Sudan claim the Tanzanians have singled out Moslems and killed them. Sudan and the United Nations High Commission for Refugees say thirty thousand Ugandan refugees have registered in the south of the Sudan where food is already scare, and that another seventy thousand have crossed the border. General Lagu says none will be sent back to Uganda against their will.
SYNOPSIS: At government offices in southern Sudan, General Lagu was asked by the BBC's John Osman about the conduct of the Tanzanian soldiers.