INTRODUCTION: The United States Ambassador to the United Nations, Andrew Young, says he doesn't think an armed struggle in South Africa will accomplish anything.
SCUs AND GV: U.S. Ambassador to the United States, Andrew Young, speaking to reporter in New York, USA (in English) (11 shots)
TRANSCRIPT: SEQ. 1: YOUNG: "I don't see armed struggle accomplishing anything, you know, I mean, I don't see armed struggle accomplishing what the proponents of armed struggle think they're accomplishing and I don't see any possibility of a violent overthrow of South Africa. I think that South Africa right now is doing more violence to herself with her militarism and building up a tremendous military establishment -- the people with their paranoia, getting guns into their households. They're flaking out -- I mean they're becoming the very thing they fear and the irony of it is, the tragic irony of it is, that they're creating the very conditions that they deplore, that they deplore philosophically. They're creating the potential of a communist state."
"REPORTER: "You would essentially lose no sleep if there were sanctions against South Africa if all else had failed?"
YOUNG: "I wouldn't lose sleep at all, I approve of economic sanctions. I'm here because of economic sanctions. I mean, it was economic sanctions that broke the back of the south. There is a sense in which blacks and whites of good will finance apartheid, and at some point we've got to come to the conclusion that we are no longer going to finance it. Now, when we come to the conclusion that we are no longer going to finance apartheid, it's amazing how quick South Africans will come to their senses. I would rather the U.S. and Britain bring them to their senses than the Russians and the Cubans bring them to their senses militarily 'cos then it might be too late."
REPORTER: "Do you think the intervention of the Cubans in Angola was a good thing in that it did teach the United States the need to accommodate the change faster than it thought it needed too?"
YOUNG: "The fact now that the Cubans are there is something to be dealt with and I still insist that you've got to reckon them as a force for stability in Angola. I mean we don't like to admit it - we're very emotional about Cuba in the U.S. But the fact remains that you got a western-backed movement, FNLA, trying to attack Gulf Oil installations and they're being protected by Cuban troops. The other thing perhaps is that the Cubans perhaps are the most disciplined force in the angolan situation. That there are some forces that you could make an agreement with but there's nobody disciplined enough to implement the agreement with them, they're disciplined enough to keep the agreement."
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REPORTER: DAVID JESSOP
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Background: INTRODUCTION: The United States Ambassador to the United Nations, Andrew Young, says he doesn't think an armed struggle in South Africa will accomplish anything. In an interview in New York on the southern Africa issue in general, he also for saw the resumption of the adjourned Geneva peace conference on Rhodesia before the end of the year.